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Tom Scott
I'm having to film back in the Tiny Room against green-screen again, as lockdown means the Centre for Computing History is closed! Hopefully they'll be open again soon, although that depends on a very different kind of progress...
Culiynl
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RanMind YT
why do you private your videos before you upload them
Michael Conroy
How did you put in the time estimate of this video in the script as you were recoring? I slowed down the video speed to .25 but can't see where you may have stitched two takes together.
NoobKing
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PrxjectMeme
Why does my phone tell me that this comment was posted before the video was?
flex
I love the bars that stop at 100% for 10 minutes or so
Paulo Lukeny
What is this golden piece of chanel that just dropped on my recommendations, SUBBED!
Windows 10X
It’s actually placebo its jus randomly stoping at random intervals and thats why it stops at 99% cuz it’s actually at 70% or 50% or maybe even 30%
SuperPlayer56 Gaming
Things to do do, to make progress bar faster:
Buy an ssd
Upgrade ram (and probably buy more ram than you have on a computer)
Buy better proccesor
Buy better router/modem and get faster internet
Buy faster hdd(s)
Install linux
Congratulations!!! Your game/program now loads/downloads/installs faster!
dick harambe
Working on updates 2% complete
1 hour later
Working on updates 10% complete
Working on updates 100% complete
Ruelle Heroux
Can i express how perfectly aligned the timer is in video to the YouTube timer?
ProHolmes
I just like windows' there are 7 years left for finish copying your files. While showing me the speed and amount of data left, which definitely won't be 7 years if i divide data amount by speed.
shmo247
Modern warfare updates:
1%.......2%.........not enough storage delete 148gb of data
Thot Slayer 420
what about a 2D progress block, width for data (so maybe mb or gb) and height for file count, never seen one, just thought of it
kalle anka
Best solution would be to put a title to every segemt of the progress bar. Anyone who watches porn on the hub will have found this out. If you dont care about foreplay you know exactly on te second to skip to, to skip that part.
So for a progress bar for a install. Just title the segement so that we know what part the computer is working on and we know what we might think of upgrading
RamennBowls
"The most important job is to reassure that yes, things are happening, progress it being made"
That moment when the progress bar is stuck at 99% for about 28 minutes...
Reese606
The only accurate progress bar is the 3DS one
And no, not the blue one
The one when your digitally downloading a game off of the eShop
Ask Master
100%
...
Restarting...
30%
....
...
..
58%
...............
79%
................
100%
....................................................................
Aaaaand it crashed
Adam Cogley
Steam
gunship sequel budyboy
you should create a program that changes the line on the video
YaBoy •
Putting my finger over the progress bar to see if its moving
Vex989
Steam installing a game be like: 1 minute left -- 2 hours left -- 5 days left -- 6 minutes left
agustinbs
Are you reporting from 1998?
DG Secret
Tom Scott : Why Progress Bars Don't Move Smoothly
Me : Wondering why the progress bar on the title doesn't move
Peto
0:06 WAS THAT A LEGO RACER 2 LOADING BAR ??????
KoGa
"Why can't computers just tell me how long something is going to take?"
Because progress bars don't show you time... they show (suprise!) progress.
Rory M
Shout out to those 99 years that I was told it was gonna take for my game to open when I was 8.
P Church
This is why I leave and do something else when I’m downloading something. If it takes 5 minutes or 2 hours I’ll have something nice to come back to once I remember
GigaGame
who needs a progress bar when u have a gaming fridge that can download anything almost instantaneously
YY YELLOW
Why this guy is soo much underrated
karehaqt
Good old Microsoft Minutes
Deconimus
How was the halting problem not mentioned in this video?
KysterPSY
Loved the Sopranos kinda ending.
Pat Smash
My loading bar just goes backwards
Chane
looking at you STEAM
A Skellington
LOADING GEOMETRIES 62%
Yajihba
Someone tell computer making people to put this when turning on a computer after shutting it down
Lordlouckster
Solution:
Have individual progress bars for each step.
Step 1/4: 10%
Step 1/4: 20%
...
Step 1/4: 100%
Step 2/4: 10%
Step 2/4: 20%
...
Step 4/4: 90%
Step 4/4: Done!
Hasan A
The one thing I wish I could do when it came to downloading something is allocate as much resources to downloading as possible. I love that you can still Watch Netflix, have a conference call, and edit a video in Adobe After affects, while downloading somthing, but sometimes I just want to download something, walk away and have the computer just worry about downloading or moving the file.
Sideways
This is the corollary to Windows 10 offering to kill any app that takes more than 15 seconds to do something - apparently Windows isn’t seeing a progress bar😅
Eeee
Bar: 1% to 99% : 20 minutes
Bar: 99% to 100% : *10 hours*
Viktória Vadon
I agree, as long as the progress bar is moving (and not backwards!), I know something is happening!
Frog 4096
3:42 Looking at you, Windows 10
Samson Kinyanjui
/////// / / / / / / / / / / / / /
10more years
///////// / / / / / / / / / / /
30more seconds
Riley Carpenter
Content
mozl83
That's also why many programmers have gone the other way and just show "progress indicator" instead of progress bars. Like the spinning wheel on Windows. It just shows that the PC didn't freeze and is still working, but you don't have any indication on how long it's going to take. Also if "time" isn't a parameter itself then the progress bar can never be give you a proper "remaining time". A countdown is always accurate because the time itself is the parameter that makes it work. Filetransfer ist based on the files and not on the time, so it will finish when it is finished, not when a certain amount of seconds have passed (like the queue in the supermarket. Fewer people doesn't mean the line is faster. There are just fewer people in front of you.).
Cameron Figgins
Minecraft’s progress bar be like: And I took that personally
Zari Hanssen
Loading time estimates be like:
20 minutes
4 seconds
45 minutes
5 minutes
999999 hours
Butter of Sorrow
Personally I like loading screens that tell you what exactly they're doing, like most source and goldsource engine games.
"Validating game resources."
"Sending client info."
That kind of thing.
French Comprehensible Input
100% done = 90% done
*Adobe Premiere users* will understand 😂
Helio Gonzalez
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Silksong Date
4:48 smh now you'll have to record everything from the start rippppp
SoftBunnyCreations Vibing
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pencilchat
my monitor froze during a download once, so i thought it took 4 hours to get a 20mb download done.
Zoltan
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Eugene Lo
Imagine the progress bar in the title is how long Tom Scott's life is
Cypress
is this the guy who says “xnyopit”
fossar _
Is it just me or was the audio an video out of sync (I'm assuming deliberately)? If so nice choice.
Tomáš Lipták
I think the best loading screens are when there are actually two (think winrar) one for the whole process and the other for individual processes. From there you can see that it is actually doing something.
youtubeusername
Pov: you kept checking your scroll bar through out the video
The cheese
Me when I tilt my phone facing down and the progress bars start moving again.
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RanMind YT
What is the 1% that’s taking so long to load
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Leo Telles
You look young and old at the same time.
That's a real mistyr to me, you should make a video about it!
AK Nephtali
The worst thing is when it goes to 99% immediately and then stays there for what feels like a millennium.
Thank you for explaining this in your usual awesome way!
SYS
A thing the program could do to resolve, or at least find a more smooth load, is by logging the time, taking the estimated time that it took, and telling you that number. If it was a game, it could show how long it had taken the last 10 times, (assuming you would've loaded it that many times), and let's say a file upload, it could track how long it would take for 100 files, and estimate the amount of time, that this would take because its 10x times larger, or half the size = it would be 10 times longer or ½ times faster.
BlurryPirate
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Phill Wainewright
Dropbox "Time Remaining" when uploading a video is a complete work of fiction.
Stipe Poljak
Intro music from the Chase?
HowDeeDoo
Steam update estimation times. 3 minutes, 7 minutes, 18 minutes, 2 hours, 17 hours... 12 seconds.
whadup
I cant be the only one that was annoyed that the two progress bars didn't match perfectly 😁
Kebbo
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Lambor_ghini
Progress screens can lock up and fool you to wait forever but ultimately you have to reset the computer..
Bubba Games
The video progress bar is half a second off
Bub
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Zak Fallows
I have four letters for you: RTOS.
A Real Time Operating System (RTOS) provides hard or soft guarantees of how long a program will take, in instruction cycles. Sometimes this is critically important, for instance if the machine is doing quantitative chemistry and it needs to error out if the reaction time wasn't very close to 90 seconds. It's fun stuff.
Cristian Martinez
why a linguistic knows computing, that aint fair
Paul Potter
Who else checked that the video progress bar was in sync?
jeremiaas15
What I'd like to know is, how is it possible that progress bars always show, even if for a split second, 100%. Surely, if that were truth, the next thing would pop up instead.
LRC
I love it when a simple download says "2 years remaining" or "∞ time remaining".
AsrithTechsys
Are you anyway realated to Linus Torvalds?
TROVEN
Who else leave cursor at the edge of the progress bar to see if its actually moving?
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Thaer Razeq
Always, stuck at the dreaded 99% or 100% more so than the previous 98% or 99% combined.
Craig Smith
Large cache SSD and a modern high core CPU like Ryzen 9 or 10+ core i9. RIP, progress bar existence
Abhinav Dev
When they do move smoothly It is the most satisfying thing in this world.
Simon T
This is a repost?
Snowjix
3:42 Too real Tom..
HP Gummy
I didn't need to know this
Ariel Zabihi
Do one on browser compilers and header data
DoubleDS9
Excellent! Thank you.
Cj Slime
I can understand why they change but the lock at 99.9 percent complete is annoying
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Shakhzod Mukhammadiev
*Good ol' floppy drives "3%.... 4%.... 98% DONE"*
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Dino Hall
Am I supposed to know what this means?
Hayato Tenryuu
Maybe Windows just decides to restart itself in order to install an update that I don't care about, and would actually rather I didn't have to have.
Brando Calrisian
Beware the perfectly smooth progress bar, got it. Great advice, thanks, i had no idea about any of this!
Bedrock Yams
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Free Wolf
Thanks.
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